Meta:Babel

Currently, the page translation target language configuration on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki were inherited from the "language converter page translation model".

However, this actually created several problems including the broken page transclutions with malfunctioned language converter tags exposed and using the workaround of Template:Conversion-zh, Template:LC zh. More breakages could be found on phab:T328838.

I would like to propose to use the "translatewiki.net page translation model"/"Miraheze Meta page translation model" instead on Meta-Wiki after the related proposal had been discussed, supported and approved and changes had been done on Wikifunctions.

Below are examples of the proposed translation model.

• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Project%3AAbout&action=page&language=zh-hans&filter=
• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Project%3AAbout&action=page&language=zh-hant&filter=
• https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Miraheze+Meta&action=page&language=zh-hans&filter=
• https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Miraheze+Meta&action=page&language=zh-hant&filter=

More briefly for the zh part: The old configuration can only translate into zh while the new configuration can translate into zh-hans (for zh-Hans-CN, zh-Hans-MY, zh-Hans-SG), zh-hant (for zh-Hant-TW) and zh-hk (for zh-Hant-HK, zh-Hant-MO).

Without using /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk, we have to pass the language tag every time using message bundle messages.

-- Wrapping all of them under /zh using {{LC zh|, without using /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk
tmb.new( mb_page_title, lang_tag ):t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()

-- Using separated /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk, we no longer need to pass the language tag :params( lang_tag ) every time
tmb.new( mb_page_title, lang_tag ):t( message_key ):plain()

With this change, every Lua module using translation bundles can be simplified:

- :t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()
+ :t( message_key ):plain()

Without this change, every Lua module using translation bundles need to:

- :t( message_key ):plain()
+ :t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()

Note: "translatewiki.net page translation model"/"Miraheze Meta page translation model" refer to the same translation model.

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As I didn't look into two models, is there any major difference? If yes, would you briefly describe the difference please? Hamish 16:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

More briefly for the zh part:

• The old configuration can only translate into zh, while:
• The new configuration can translate into zh-hans (for zh-Hans-CN, zh-Hans-MY, zh-Hans-SG), zh-hant (for zh-Hant-TW) and zh-hk (for zh-Hant-HK, zh-Hant-MO).

-- Winston Sung (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

A future timestamp to prevent automatic archive to unresolved topic. -- Winston Sung (talk) 00:00, 1 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

I believe this template was copy-pasted from Wikipedia which left multiple red links behind. I've restored the old links but I believe they should be updated to link to Meta wiki policies and talk pages instead of the ones on Wikipedia. I'm not really sure. It's moon (talk) 17:08, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

@It's moon: It's fine for some of the links to lead to pages on Wikipedia and mediawikiwiki; Meta doesn't have many help pages and policies, and those that exist aren't as detailed as those on the aforementioned projects. However, the help desk and village pump links should point to this page (Meta:Babel) instead. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 19:04, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Done. It's moon (talk) 15:50, 8 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Should we use Wikipedia's category explanation (1, 2) for these two categories? It's moon (talk) 17:21, 6 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

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We would like to rename the page Lingua Libre/SignIt into SignIt. The project haven't been supported by Wikimedia France for the past 6 years and is fully carried forward by volunteers , myself and User:GonFreeaks. We are looking for a new WM Chapter or affiliate group to support this inspiring Sign Language project. The current pagename suggests, wrongly, that we are part of the WMFR-supported by Lingua Libre and therefor supported as well, which deters alternative affiliate from jumping in and giving us the occasional support we need. The page has multiple translations so I don't have the userrights to lead this renaming myself. Could some administrator help ? Yug (talk) 08:21, 26 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Local A/TAs cannot move it now due to system restrictions, but I will file a Phabricator task. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 09:24, 26 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

phab:T408314. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 09:27, 26 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Now done. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 02:29, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I noticed it's done. Thank you Phương Linh. Yug (talk) 08:01, 30 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Take this one for an example. Should they be deleted? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:46, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Deleted. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 11:07, 2 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I'll take it that such pages are to be speedy deleted. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 11:18, 2 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

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